tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post4567808114197207356..comments2024-03-29T11:39:42.348+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: The Paris Muslims who saved Jews from the NazisUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-17195642049003600432012-07-22T18:44:48.382+01:002012-07-22T18:44:48.382+01:00Sammish,
I diagree with you that Muslims will hat...Sammish,<br /><br />I diagree with you that Muslims will hate that Imam and label him as traitor. I am a Muslim and very proud of his humanitarian role and kindness towards Jews who were inhumanely being hunted and killed. Kindness and helping the oppressed is something I learn from our Prophet Muhammad (SAW).Usmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-36103730669002307552011-08-16T08:08:04.373+01:002011-08-16T08:08:04.373+01:00I would say all who understand religion and read f...I would say all who understand religion and read for themselves, rather than hearsay. Those who do not have their political agendas hidden beneath their religious alter motives. Do we all forget we are humans first? If people only put themselves in other shoes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-13155256583718778122011-08-16T07:48:38.703+01:002011-08-16T07:48:38.703+01:00Afia! Delighted to hear it. But how many others ag...Afia! Delighted to hear it. But how many others agree with you?bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-13210211482725337162011-08-16T05:51:35.989+01:002011-08-16T05:51:35.989+01:00Well I dont see the muslim who saved the Jews as t...Well I dont see the muslim who saved the Jews as traitors. Why wudnt one save them from such evil actions. I am a muslim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-16824105742244627052011-08-15T13:05:24.165+01:002011-08-15T13:05:24.165+01:00Sounds very interesting - do let us know when your...Sounds very interesting - do let us know when your article is published.<br /><br />I'm not sure that Jews play down the stories of Muslim rescue because they are reluctant to see Arabs as the 'new' Nazis. There were plenty of 'old' Nazis around, and it is the current tendency to whitewash their past that rankles.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-88845459313107801682011-08-15T12:34:41.568+01:002011-08-15T12:34:41.568+01:00I am a historian about to publish a long article e...I am a historian about to publish a long article exploring both the historical reality -- more complex than the mythology -- of this story, and the issues of memory surrounding it. It is not necessarily the case that Arabs and Muslims reject those who helped Jews. Look at the last section of Robert Satloff's book. On the other hand, they often do show at best a great deal of ambivalence toward such stories. But then so do many Jews, who are reluctant to see Arabs as anything other than the new Nazis, let alone as having helped Jews. My article will appear in an upcoming issue of the journal Jewish Quarterly Review, and will explore all of these issues in much greater depth based on years of research in many archives.Ethan Katzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15494174590983569479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-26178272383640968192011-08-14T17:19:32.735+01:002011-08-14T17:19:32.735+01:00Sammish
It is true that most Muslims / Arabs find ...Sammish<br />It is true that most Muslims / Arabs find it embarrassing that any of their kind might have rescued the 'Jewish enemy'. That's why Satloff, when researching his book, found it so hard to find Arabs and Muslims who would admit to saving Jews and often knew more about the stories of rescue than the families of the saviours themselves.<br /><br />Lately there has been an interfaith trend to highlight the few individual Muslims who saved Jews for propaganda purposes in order to dissociate the bulk of Arabs/Muslims from complicity with the Holocaust. <br /><br />The fact that these 'good' Muslims were Berbers is relevant - they are more likely to find common cause with the Jews, and have less to lose if accused of being traitors.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-86811742428023747912011-08-14T16:34:29.254+01:002011-08-14T16:34:29.254+01:00I have read this entry on the Elder blog few days ...I have read this entry on the Elder blog few days ago. To be honest, I did not know what to make of it. The article deals with an issue that I somehow feel ambivalent about. Nobody can say anything negative, let alone be suspicious about such actions taken by the Paris mosque Imam Kadour during the times when Jews were hunted down to be interned at Drancy transit camp before the Eastern rail transport to the death camps of Poland. This applies to all Jews now living and those who have perished. But I am not sure this will sit well with Arabs and Muslims, back then and more crucially nowadays. Let me explain. <br /><br />It is my belief that if we show the Imam’s actions to the general population of Arabs and Muslims and ask them to comment on his humanitarian and righteous personality, they would certainly and without a doubt label him as a traitor and an apostate. Someone may even search his resting place and desecrate his grave just to show the unchanging position of Jew-hatred among the Muslim population. And we always ask ourselves why? Why such actions (imam’s one) are deemed unworthy in the eye of the majority of Arabs? If his actions are the exception to rule, is there optimism of the possibility of human understanding? <br /><br />The article raises more pertinent questions than it delivers about the possibility of reconciliation and common understanding and respects between creeds. Why are Jews always digging for some historical facts showing a Muslim with power (albeit limited during wartime yet useful) saving Jewish lives. Do not take me wrong here, I agree that we should be aware of these blessed souls who have saved countless people, and that spreading their stories can only bring good and understanding among nations, yet I feel that Jews are trying so hard to be accepted (or maybe hope for a change in attitude toward them) only in relation to those other non-Jewish people who have nourished, helped, hide, saved Jewish people from the evil of hatred and ignorance. <br /><br />It is the hope (HaTikva)… and it is always HaTikva for everything… for a state, for freedom and for peace, for respect and recognition…and that’s all we have by being aware of Imam Kadour’s actions and spreading the news … which is to see a rapprochement in Jewish and Muslim relations based on understanding and the respect. As for the rest, all is wishful thinking….Sammishnoreply@blogger.com