tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post312723249989399223..comments2024-03-14T02:22:26.957+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: Six letters react to Aciman piece in NY TimesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-30380343331331972932009-06-14T15:39:21.648+01:002009-06-14T15:39:21.648+01:00Bataween, characters like Albert B never to cease ...Bataween, characters like Albert B never to cease to amaze me with their stubborn imperviousness to facts. Albert B wants to cling to his anti-Jewish [superficially "anti-Zionist"] accusation no matter what you tell him. Some people have an emotional need to accuse Jews of some basic responsibility for all the world's ills and for their own suffering. <br /><br />Why didn't Albert B research this subject before making his accusation? Surely an intelligent, well-informed [or would-be well-informed], and fair-minded person would examine the truth of partisan charges and know something more about history than what Albert B knows.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-22961781123270896172009-06-12T07:52:59.633+01:002009-06-12T07:52:59.633+01:00Albert, on the contrary:
The Damascus affair occu...Albert, on the contrary:<br /><br />The Damascus affair occurred in 1840, when an Italian monk and his servant disappeared in Damascus. Pogroms occurred in: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901-02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901-07), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874).<br /><br />In 1839, in the eastern Persian city of Meshed, it was only by forcible conversion that a massacre was averted.<br /><br />Jews were murdered in 1898 (Algiers) 1905 (Sana'a) 1907 (Casablanca, Marrakesh, Oujda) 1909 (Darab, Kermanshah, Shiraz, Iran) 1911 (Mosul) 1912 (Fez).<br /><br />I could go on.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-78520936868447604262009-06-12T05:34:05.527+01:002009-06-12T05:34:05.527+01:00Yes, perhaps the violence against jews in Arab lan...Yes, perhaps the violence against jews in Arab lands predate the State of Israel (1941 as one example given, but it did not predate the beginning of the stirring for that state and the resulting problems in Palestine.<br /><br /> Albert I. B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-78566129224168501752009-06-11T17:33:43.691+01:002009-06-11T17:33:43.691+01:00Suzanne: you are right that violence against Jews ...Suzanne: you are right that violence against Jews predated the state of Israel. The story is the same in Iraq (1941 pogrom) and Libya (1945 pogrom). The danger with the concept 'collective punishment' is that it assumes that the Arabs reacted to Israel, whereas it was pre=existing nationalistic antisemitism and religious xenophobia which actually caused Arab rejectionism of Israel.<br />Bataweenbataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-38119458205717266522009-06-11T17:16:34.535+01:002009-06-11T17:16:34.535+01:00@Victor and she is also misinformed:
"EGYPT ...@Victor and she is also misinformed:<br /><br />"EGYPT ARABS RIOT AGAINST ZIONISTS; 10 KILLED, 350 HURT; Shops Are Stoned and Looted and Synagogue Set Afire in Cairo Outbreak POLICE CLASH WITH MOBS Alexandria and Other Cities Report Similar Scenes of General Strike Violence Police Standing By Stone-Throwing Begins EGYPT ARABS RIOT AGAINST ZIONISTS Looting Becomes Wholesale Department Store Raided Other Cities Affected U.S. Refinery Deal Threatened<br />By CLIFTON DANIEL By Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.<br />November 3, 1945, Saturday"<br />http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10616F9395E1A738DDDAA0894D9415B8588F1D3<br /><br />74 TRIPOLITAN JEWS SLAIN IN ARAB RIOTS; 183 Wounded in Outburst That 'Astonishes' British--Curbs Follow 2-Day Disorders 74 TRIPOLITAN JEWS SLAIN IN ARAB RIOTS British "Astonished" No Economic Motive Seen False Reports Spread No Agreement With U.S. Yet<br />By CLIFTON DANIEL By Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.<br />November 8, 1945, Thursday<br />http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50711FF3D5B10738DDDA10894D9415B8588F1D3Suzannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-24916107470097249042009-06-11T15:56:40.744+01:002009-06-11T15:56:40.744+01:00There is indeed irony in the letter by Sarah Fike ...There is indeed irony in the letter by Sarah Fike of Berkeley (where else?). She states that there is a "direct connection" between the loss of Palestinian homes and the expulsion of the Jews from Egypt. She fails to acknowledge that the expulsion of Jews from Egypt was collective punishment. It's doubly ironic since Israel is so often condemned for inflicting "collective punishment" on the Palestinians, and yet the collective punishment inflicted on North African & Middle Eastern Jews gets a pass from Berkeley leftists.victornoreply@blogger.com