tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post3046495168375714105..comments2024-03-14T02:22:26.957+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: Lessons of the Hebron massacre for 'coexistence'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-48138552699416816792014-08-19T17:08:32.219+01:002014-08-19T17:08:32.219+01:00Many thanks for your comment and corrections, whic...Many thanks for your comment and corrections, which I have tried to incorporate in the post.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-28940393769054368112014-08-19T16:04:09.454+01:002014-08-19T16:04:09.454+01:00The article in Pajamas Media, which was the primar...The article in Pajamas Media, which was the primary source is completely garbeled. First, Rav Ya'akov Yosef Slonim Dwek was the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi, Rav Me'ir Franko (not "Frank") was the Sephardi Chief Rabbi. Both men were Sephardi-Mizrachim. Slonim Dwek was able to obtain the position based on two Ashkenazi ancestors who made Aliyah in 1844 from Belarus. The fact that they were the son in law and grandson of the Mittler Rebbe accorded them enough respect by the miniscule Ashkenazi Community in Hebron to land the position.<br /><br /><br />As for who invited the Bocherim to take shelter, that was NOT Rav Slonim Dwek. It was his son, Dan Eliezer Slonim Dwek, a branch manager with Banc L'e'umi ( though then it was known by uts original name). He was a rabbi as well but opted to live like a Chiloni.<br /><br /><br />The Bocherim were from K'nesset Yisrael, aka Slobodka Yeshiva which had relocated from Lithuania to Hebron only six years earlier. Most Bocherim were Diaspora Aahkenazim and as such spoke no Ladino or Judeo Arabic, the traditional languages of the Hebron Jewish Community.<br /><br /><br />The "son" being quoted is the son of Dan Eliezer, NOT Rav Ya'akov Yosef. The son, my father, is Shlomo Slonim Dwek, less than a year old at that time. His elder brother Aron, almost 3, was a victim, as was Dan Eliezer, his wife Chanah Orlansky Slonim Dwek, her parents, the father being Chief Ashkenai Rabbi in Zichron Ya'akov who was visiting his daughter and grandchildren. Altogether our family lost 18 members so that nearly 30 Sephardi-Mizrachim were killed, forming the majority of the victims (the final toll if 67 relates to those that died in Jerusalem up to a year after the pogrom from wounds incurred. There were 58 killed in the pogrom itself, and though Muzrachim were the larger of the two it was close to 50:50, until the latter deaths occurred in Jerusalem).<br /><br /><br />Rav Ya'akov Yosef Slonim Dwek was NOT killed. He allowed Dan Eliezer to have the family home and lived in a flat in a home he leased to an Arab. Dan Eliezer's sister, Ruti, was with their father, Rav Ya'akov Yosef. After the Ethnic Cleansing, three days after the pogrom, Rav Ya'akov Yosef, Ruti and my father Shlomo lived in Jerusalem.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-28768726285289241682009-08-28T20:14:31.522+01:002009-08-28T20:14:31.522+01:00The book mentioned at the end of the article can b...The book mentioned at the end of the article can be found here:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Hebron-Jews-Memory-Conflict-Israel/dp/0742566153/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251486223&sr=8-2#readerHeathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-3304647333626406462009-08-28T18:33:24.834+01:002009-08-28T18:33:24.834+01:00This was published in the Wall Street Journal :
h...This was published in the Wall Street Journal :<br /><br />http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203946904574300241762121888.html<br /><br />HeatherHeathernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-4929851288537184792009-08-27T15:05:02.527+01:002009-08-27T15:05:02.527+01:00The 1929's Hebron massacre is mentioned in som...The 1929's Hebron massacre is mentioned in some detailed in the lastest impressive edited book by Andrew Bostom's "The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism". A must read for anyone interested in jewish history and islamic history.<br /><br />Although without a doubt the massacre was a calamity for the small Hebron's Yishuv, it pales in severity and cruelty compared to massacres during the same years perpetrated in Morocco and Algeria. I was stunded by the ferocity of massacres, rapes and killing of children in most of the major cities of North Africa described by French authorities and letters of surviving jewish leaders and rabis... <br /><br />The lesson is that Jews can never be in peace with muslims. Muslims will NEVER leave them alone, even if they open up a bit and extend their hands of friendship, the question is when will the mob rise against the Jews again. Of course, I am speaking generally here. It will take only a rumor or a mad man to trigger the genocidal tendencies of islamic jew-hatred.sammishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-55664112390516883742009-08-27T12:21:24.401+01:002009-08-27T12:21:24.401+01:00off topic/
Martin Peretz presents a discussion of...off topic/<br /><br />Martin Peretz presents a discussion of Islamic jihadism as a form of totalitarianism.<br /><br />http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_spine/archive/2009/08/26/beware-do-not-read-if-all-you-want-is-an-intellectual-fix-for-one-of-your-political-prejudices-this-is-serious-stuff.aspx<br /><br />Here's a book on the influence of Nazism on the Muslim Brotherhood and on the British-appointed mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini<br /><br />http://www.telospress.com/main/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=324Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-14293672602233780172009-08-26T16:49:28.454+01:002009-08-26T16:49:28.454+01:00Bataween, you could not be more right in saying th...Bataween, you could not be more right in saying that coexistence, in and of itself, does not lead automatically to "mutual respect." The Hutus and Tutsis had lived together for generations before the Rwanda genocide. Just because they lived side by side did not prevent some of them from massacring people they had had as neighbors for years.victornoreply@blogger.com