tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post1373692458024610710..comments2024-03-14T02:22:26.957+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: Clueless in Cleveland about Jewish refugeesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-80419812871241372992012-08-22T17:41:28.642+01:002012-08-22T17:41:28.642+01:00Eliahu
"I must say that these quibbles about...Eliahu<br /><br />"I must say that these quibbles about Who Is Really a Refugee are stupid and indicate shallowness."<br /><br />I thought at first that perhaps it wasn't a good idea to go to those other writers who clearly either didn't do their homework or were purposely provocative in order to generate more traffic.<br /><br />But on second thought, it serves spread awareness of a history that the state's first historians sought to suppress, in their naive (leftist) view that building resentment could only hinder "peace", not to mention that they sought to build a unifying narrative, at the expense of others' history.<br /><br />Let's hope some clueless New Yorker writes an article in the New York Times or the Washington Post that will require another rebuttal in those very newspapers ;)<br /> Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-35039136767192768022012-08-22T15:54:56.554+01:002012-08-22T15:54:56.554+01:00Very interesting, thanks Sylvia!Very interesting, thanks Sylvia!bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-18064299607412672342012-08-22T15:44:05.845+01:002012-08-22T15:44:05.845+01:00Photo
http://www.judaisme-marocain.org/phototheque...Photo<br />http://www.judaisme-marocain.org/phototheque/visite.php?vue=icono&id=1100<br /><br />Bataween a wealth of photographs in that site.<br />Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-51115046559207966122012-08-22T15:38:21.715+01:002012-08-22T15:38:21.715+01:00OOPS!
Correct spelling is "Camp d'Arénas&...OOPS!<br />Correct spelling is "Camp d'Arénas"<br /><br />Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-22110080843673378422012-08-22T15:23:45.769+01:002012-08-22T15:23:45.769+01:00I had addressed this question of camps on that oth...I had addressed this question of camps on that other site but for some reason I can't see my post.<br /><br />First, we should ask the question of why the Arab states were so eager to send massive Jewish populations to Israel, Iraq in particular. <br />It certainly wasn't in order to strengthen the Jewish State which would be too overwhelmed to defend itself, but rather to cause it to crash. <br />The new Israeli government realized the danger of uncontrolled immigration and it established quotas. The quotas for Jews from Arab countries were particularly stringent - no doubt for other reasons too. 2500 a month for the Jews of Iraq by 1950, 600 for the Moroccan and Tunisian Jews at the time of the riots of 1953 and 1955.<br />But after the riots, Jews wanted out and registered en masse, and so transit camps were established: in Iran for Iraqi Jews, and the camp d'Arrenas in Marseille for North African Jews, where in many cases the refugees spent years waiting for accommodation in Israel, while others were taken to Israel where there too, they spent years in Maabarot, while new towns were being built in the periphery along the southern borders:<br />Dimona 1953-1955, Sderot for Kurdish Jews in 1954, Netivot for Moroccan and Tunisian Jews in 1956, Ofakim for Indian and North Africans in 1955, etc.<br />So yes, Jewish refugees were also relegated from camp to camp. <br /><br />Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-52006227271378616722012-08-20T22:33:19.551+01:002012-08-20T22:33:19.551+01:00I left some comments at the Times of Israel site. ...I left some comments at the Times of Israel site. But I must say that these quibbles about Who Is Really a Refugee are stupid and indicate shallowness. As I see it, the main motive for refusing to see the Jewish refugees from Arab lands as refugees is a desire or compulsion to protect the Leftist narrative about Arabs and particularly those Arabs called "palestinians." <br /><br />Bear in mind that the world Left, the reference group for the Jewish "leftists" too, has been whining over the Palstinian Arab refugees since about 1950 when the Soviets abandoned their previous support for Israel. Non-Soviet-oriented "leftists" were probably taking that position earlier. Think of all those people in Israel, like Shuli Aloni, Yossi Sarid, and a small army of autistim or artistim who wanted to feel themselves an integral part of the world "Left." Recall that Shenhav too takes that position. I remember a TV show about ten or 15 years ago here in Israel on which a Commie historian, apparently a son of Tamar Gozhansky [CP MK], was trying to tell people who had been on the famous Exodus refugee boat that they had been kidnapped by the Zionists and forced to stay on the British boat that took them first back to France and then to Hamburg. The old timers on the show said No, we weren't kidnapped or forced to stay on. But this Commie historian could not accept it.<br /><br />Ironically or not so ironically, British spokesmen were saying back in 1947 that the Zionists were forcing the refugees to stay on the Brit prison boat instead of getting off in France [the French were saying that they would not accept anybody who had been forced to debark]. This means that communists recently have been parroting the line of the British imperialists in 1947.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-62247996512956002912012-08-20T09:44:43.376+01:002012-08-20T09:44:43.376+01:00That's a great post. Very forceful.That's a great post. Very forceful.Sylvianoreply@blogger.com