tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post8891695266994243699..comments2024-03-29T11:39:42.348+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: A Christian-free Egypt is not beyond imaginationUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-91715676041066584192011-01-11T20:12:10.372+00:002011-01-11T20:12:10.372+00:00new accident :((((new accident :((((Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02788943165457442772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-81512052966713878422011-01-10T22:22:43.502+00:002011-01-10T22:22:43.502+00:00In fact, what Copts should do is stress that Arab ...In fact, what Copts should do is stress that Arab identity which will get them the support of those Egyptians who view themselves as Arabs first.Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-44910899850579444942011-01-10T22:16:10.737+00:002011-01-10T22:16:10.737+00:00The best thing Jews can do for the Copts is keep t...The best thing Jews can do for the Copts is keep their distance.<br />The last thing they need right now is being labeled "Zionists" by association.<br /><br />Another thing -and the main one in my view - is that Copts were given the "Arab" identity which demands loyalty to the Arab League (something the fools who call themselves "Arab Jews" don't realize). And so any mark of sympthy to Jews or Israel would be interpreted as treason and punishable.Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-4329818373871072782011-01-10T21:14:38.888+00:002011-01-10T21:14:38.888+00:00@Eliyahu m'Tsiyon
the position of pope sheno...@Eliyahu m'Tsiyon <br /><br />the position of pope shenoda not only a religious position but he also have to be a politician specially in this circumstances <br /><br />i said it before we have to be Egyptians besides -or before in my opinion- being christiansAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02788943165457442772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-15727495618895582872011-01-10T21:03:14.591+00:002011-01-10T21:03:14.591+00:00Maybe the testimony that I will quote here can hel...Maybe the testimony that I will quote here can help settle or balance the issue:<br /><br />Eli Avidar, chairman of the Forum for a Wise Middle East, was interviewed by Maqor Rishon [7 January 2011] in regard to the recent massacre in Alexandria. He was born in Alexandria and says: "From my childhood I remember the Coptic Christians and their warm attitude toward us, the Jews in Egypt.... The sympathy of the Coptic Christians for Israel and Judaism gives radical Islamic personalities another reason to want ill to befall them. Therefore, the Coptic leader, the Baba Shenouda III, tries to present himself as anti-Israel."Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-31918525188917242482011-01-10T20:37:13.177+00:002011-01-10T20:37:13.177+00:00@vardit
haha you meen we have to make some of us ...@vardit<br /><br />haha you meen we have to make some of us jews or atheists to be persecuted as (not christians) so the christians become safe<br /><br />note: last year a lot of bahai's houses in a village in Egypt was burnt down by Muslims villagers after they knew about their religion from a report on TV<br /><br />http://www.bahai-egypt.org/2009/04/mob-burns-bahai-homes-in-southern.html<br /><br />other minorities also blogAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02788943165457442772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-55236006490251055462011-01-09T18:34:33.822+00:002011-01-09T18:34:33.822+00:00C'mon Anonymous, you're killing me here!
W...C'mon Anonymous, you're killing me here!<br />What are you using me for? Translate barks into English? <br /><br />c'mon<br /> مجهول، كنت قتل لي هنا!<br />ما الذي تستخدمه لي عنه؟ ينبح ترجمة إلى اللغة الإنكليزية؟<br /><br />Don Cox,<br />You bery, bery smarrrt man. Me feels you gonna win Nobel price =)<br /><br /><br />Why so serious?Google Translatorhttp://translate.google.com/#noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-26373267403812976092011-01-09T17:44:34.200+00:002011-01-09T17:44:34.200+00:00bataween said...
Go read my sentence well before m...bataween said...<br />Go read my sentence well before make comment here.<br /><br />The sentence <b>"You Either with us or against US"</b> your war criminal BUSH and his Co.<br /><br />Its not mine Madam ><br /><br />Are your English also not good to understand hard to understand?<br />Don't be evil in this worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-32735642418531551602011-01-09T13:21:13.346+00:002011-01-09T13:21:13.346+00:00It seems that everyone who believes in a monotheis...It seems that everyone who believes in a monotheistic religion hates everyone else who believes in a monotheistic religion.Don Coxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11232752398252841794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-40061649414925819922011-01-09T08:55:31.214+00:002011-01-09T08:55:31.214+00:00Two enemas! Well said, anonymous.
If were not so p...Two enemas! Well said, anonymous.<br />If were not so paranoid, you might notice I am not deleting your comments.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-55615836856329020362011-01-09T08:35:16.306+00:002011-01-09T08:35:16.306+00:00Eliyahu m'Tsiyon
Your comment full more of ga...Eliyahu m'Tsiyon <br />Your comment full more of garbage you did not answer my my question you still jumping here and their making nonsense thoughts and statement.<br /><br />Over all you but your excuse on my english.<br /><br />Answer my simple word did I said babylonian Arab? show us here.<br /><br />As let and right this your creation of your master<br />"Either with us or against us"<br /><br />Madam the world not can be build on two side facing one by of two enemas fighting forever as your mindset.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-66053858322332169702011-01-09T08:02:37.232+00:002011-01-09T08:02:37.232+00:00On the horrid event in Alexandria, I note that som...On the horrid event in Alexandria, I note that some commenters here and elsewhere want to blame everybody but the Arabs for what happened. The line goes like this: Before European intervention in the Ottoman Empire, everything was fine for the non-Muslim minorities. This is simply false as attested by various observers. For one, Karsten Niebuhr who toured Egypt and Aden several decades <i>before</i> Napoleon's invasion of Egypt. Niebuhr reported how Jews and Copts were treated in humiliating fashion in the 18th century. <br /><br />At the same time, I agree that sometimes the Euro powers played a destructive role, harmful to the non-Muslims. This was not when they were trying to help or protect them but when they encouraged Muslim powers and/or movements against local, native non-Muslims, as Germans helped in the Armenian genocide of WW I, as Britain allowed the Farhud to proceed in Baghdad in 1941, as the UK acquiesced or even encouraged the Arab attacks on Jews in Israel in 1920, 1929, 1936-38, and in December 1947 to May 1948.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-6161064155329557082011-01-09T07:30:54.746+00:002011-01-09T07:30:54.746+00:00Anon, reading over your comment, I think that mayb...Anon, reading over your comment, I think that maybe you didn't claim that Nebuchadnezzar was an Arab. But --with all due respect-- your English needs some help in order to be unambiguously understood. Be that as it may, Saddam Hussein used to claim that Nebuchadnezzar was an Arab, I believe. You suggest that Nebu... was an imperialist or empire-builder. Now by saying that Nebu and his Babylonians were not Arabs, you correctly imply that the Arabs of the 7th century conquered Iraq [Babylonia] and made it part of their empire. So the Arabs were imperialists at that time and the Arab nationalists today are still imperialists. The problem is that most of the Euro "Left", who like to see themselves as "anti-imperialists," don't want to see that. And this is just fine with the EU which supports Arab nationalism for its purposes, using the Euro "Left" to build up support for Arab imperialism among Euro public opinion. IN short, the Euro "Left" is a tool of the EU for shaping their own public opinion. If this is exaggerated, it is not by much.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-22921314853176640722011-01-08T23:56:11.973+00:002011-01-08T23:56:11.973+00:00Two point here for those who twisting historical f...Two point here for those who twisting historical factual or they have their minds and hearts Faull of hatred that prevent them from really understand others “ Arabs”<br /><i><b>One of the Anonymoi seems to believe that Nabuchadnezzar was an Arab. That shows how distorted the Arab and pro-Arab </b></i><br /><br />Where did you read that our genius lady show us I did said that Babylonian Arab?<br /><br />But let not forgot that your garbage keep telling that Jews are tribe and they have lived before Babylonians on the land with your support for their fake dream as old as old as Babylonians.<br /><br />So as Iraqi we are most deserving that our heritage and our history be our source of our nation not faking this by making lies like Eliyahu m'Tsiyon’s ilks<br /><br /><i><b>As usual, anonymous, you have misunderstood what I wrote.</b></i><br /><br />Obviously simple to find excuses by saying that, let remind you of with another thing also with “out of date” reply then deleting all my comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-48366667330260335892011-01-08T23:23:22.103+00:002011-01-08T23:23:22.103+00:00I did not forget it, Andrew. The sad thing is that...I did not forget it, Andrew. The sad thing is that the last time this unity between Copts and Muslims took place in Egypt was when they persecuted Jews... <br /><br />'Palestinians' had the same problem a few years ago. I remember a statement that was reproduced on a newspaper or blog. It was something like "there are no more churches to burn"<br /><br />A few years later they started killing eachother (nothing new, but they used to be more discreet)...Varditnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-12903377828355718112011-01-08T23:17:40.400+00:002011-01-08T23:17:40.400+00:00Thanks for alerting me. The conspiracy theorists a...Thanks for alerting me. The conspiracy theorists are claiming that Mossad is behind this tragedy too. Makes a lot of sense (not)bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-34226616971543449102011-01-08T23:09:05.585+00:002011-01-08T23:09:05.585+00:00Bataween
OT
Fifty years ago this coming Monday nig...Bataween<br />OT<br />Fifty years ago this coming Monday night, the Pisces, a yacht carrying Jews fleeing Morocco, capsized off the coast of Spain. 46 passengers drowned.<br />The name of the boat was later changed to "Egoz".Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-2657186693112391362011-01-08T23:06:32.711+00:002011-01-08T23:06:32.711+00:00Sylvia, you think it's unlikely that Egypt wil...Sylvia, you think it's unlikely that Egypt will be Christian-free, but it happened. As you rightly point out, the Christians disappeared from Morocco and Yemen in the 12 to 13th centuries. From being a majority, they were wiped out.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-15498382070396291842011-01-08T22:48:43.970+00:002011-01-08T22:48:43.970+00:00To address the topic I don't think Egypt will ...To address the topic I don't think Egypt will be Christian-free any time soon. However, there may be tough days ahead for the minorities in Egypt depending on who wins the elections. <br /><br />Personally, I think the Muslim Brotherhood is behind it. We - Jews of Arab countries - went through this every time political elements sought to challenge the existing regime, question its legitimacy, and destabilize the country in their bid for power. The basic principle is that a regime unable to protect its minorities is unfit to rule. So you attack the minorities to prove exactly that. With the added bonus that the loyalists get to loot, to grab the homes and businesses of those who flee for a piece of bread, not to mention that jobs will be vacated. <br /><br />Calling them islamists, salafists, extremists only obscures the picture. Not too long ago the perpetrators of those same crimes against non-<uslims in their midst were called Arab nationalists.Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-17868170126786595062011-01-08T22:19:56.828+00:002011-01-08T22:19:56.828+00:00vardit
don't forget we -as a minority- are ru...vardit<br /><br />don't forget we -as a minority- are running in 2 lanes.<br />as christians we want to achieve full equality with the majority. <br /><br />as Egyptians we want to save our unity as and build up our country .Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02788943165457442772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-20833945994314809032011-01-08T22:19:01.410+00:002011-01-08T22:19:01.410+00:00One of the Anonymoi seems to believe that Nabuchad...One of the Anonymoi seems to believe that Nabuchadnezzar was an Arab. That shows how distorted the Arab and pro-Arab view of Middle Eastern history was. Nebuchadnezzar was a Babylonian. They had their own language, a Semitic tongue. Probably Akkadian But they were not Arabs. Only Arab nationalist liars like Saddam Hussein called him an Arab.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-91018789071235118202011-01-08T21:35:45.637+00:002011-01-08T21:35:45.637+00:00As usual, anonymous, you have misunderstood what I...As usual, anonymous, you have misunderstood what I wrote.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-45035666161806212092011-01-08T20:57:04.188+00:002011-01-08T20:57:04.188+00:00This Debbie girl is a little over the top but I ki...This Debbie girl is a little over the top but I kinda liked it!!!<br />Giving grades like '2 and a half Marxes' or '1 Reagan' to movies. . . well it's funnier than SNL and Eretz Nehederet. . . hhh<br />Sylvia<br />I read those posts and I don't think anyone made this claim. Joseph blaims Copts for turning Egyptian Muslims even more antisemitic, not for starting it. And the blogger, at one point, accuses them of being responsible and even leading some of the progroms. But no one claimed Copts introduced anti-semitism.<br /><br />These minorities don't share Bataween's opinion about boats and solidarity (at least not when it comes to Jews). Except for Maronites and a few others, they still side with Muslims every chance they get. Some are coerced, but seems pretty clear that Middle Eastern Christians have a side. My only doubt is: is that the Muslim side or it's just the opposite side of the Jews?Varditnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-4378436045812402902011-01-08T20:39:35.069+00:002011-01-08T20:39:35.069+00:00the Jews - also in the region well before the birt...<i><b>the Jews - also in the region well before the birth of Muhammad - were being systematically deprived of their rights ?</b></i><br /><br />So did you blame arabs for this for you claims before 1400 years ago?<br /><br />what about also you blame arab for the Nabucodonosor II (c. 630-562 a. C.)for his military operation to bring Judea and Samara under his control. just like any empires we saw in our modern history?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-57570789597504869222011-01-08T20:23:58.362+00:002011-01-08T20:23:58.362+00:00so that's where the talking is going
i want ...so that's where the talking is going <br /><br />i want to put that right<br />if you don't believe in this you're such a joker <br />Jews consider both Christianity and Islam as a big lie , the same Christians consider Islam . while they look to the Jews as the killers of Jesus Christ <br />Muslims consider jews as their eternal enemy and christians as lower standard creatures <br />so there's a sort of racism is about religion<br />in history you can find crimes for all of them <br /><br />BUT in the same society the human being should respect the other to be able to treat him to be able to LIVEAndrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02788943165457442772noreply@blogger.com