tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post7942513533635861033..comments2024-03-14T02:22:26.957+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: Perils of distorted historiography in Israel's schoolsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-87232745755155955092010-10-31T14:57:55.743+00:002010-10-31T14:57:55.743+00:00Sylvia,
Just wanted to thank you for your EXCELLE...Sylvia,<br /><br />Just wanted to thank you for your EXCELLENT post.<br />Anonymous, this is what a post should look like. FACTS and not propaganda and snide innuendo.Joe Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-27502902403674144732010-10-31T00:08:26.697+01:002010-10-31T00:08:26.697+01:00yuli tamir was a fool, and if she believes that th...yuli tamir was a fool, and if she believes that the Green Line is or ever was a border, that proves that she is a fool. The Green Line was an armistice line decided in 1949 on the isle of Rhodes in negotiations led by Ralph Bunche. This line more or less reflects where the armies were when fighting stopped but it did take into account various practical problems of the line between the forces. <br /><br />Yuli tamir is/was a prof of education. Nonetheless, a fool who did a bad job as minister. Sylvia nails her pretty well.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-72458119584774160902010-10-30T16:18:03.962+01:002010-10-30T16:18:03.962+01:00Anonymous
This article is about Israeli pro-Pales...Anonymous<br /><br />This article is about Israeli pro-Palestinian Leftists and Israeli Arabs who dominate in the Education Ministry (Yuli Tamir, a founder of Shalom Akhshav, is a good example of a radical Leftist tuened Education Minister - no less). Those people are imposing in school textbooks their political views on the history of the Israel- Paletinian conflict and distorting the history of the Jews in Arab/Muslim countries ro suit their fabricated narrative. We - Jews from Arab countries - believe that no one has the right to erase our histories and memories, the good and the bad, to suit their personal political agendas - whether we agree with those agendas or not.<br /><br />Now that you understand the background, let me tell you that the Israeli students know exactly where the borders are. They know everything about the green line (1967 border with Jordan at the time), the Golan Heights (the borders with Lebanon, Gaza,Egypt and Jordan are not in dispute). They are taken on tours to Jerusalem and shown exactly where the old wall border that separated East from West. <br /><br />It is, unfortunately, the Palestinians and the radical Jewish Left who insist on deleting the borders. There are no borders in Palestinian maps. There are no borders in maps displayed by pro-one state solution, and by pro-Palestinians in and out of the region. I remember an old interview of Edward Said by Haaretz journalist Ari Shavit, whereby Ari Shavit - a product of Israeli schools - was surprised to see on the wall in Said's office a map without borders.<br /><br />Anonymous, try to get your facts straight because there can be no dialogue if one party presents propaganda as fact, and the other party waste their time refuting it.Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-71288150795620542672010-10-30T11:42:06.540+01:002010-10-30T11:42:06.540+01:00Ok - let me try to explain one last time.
This pos...Ok - let me try to explain one last time.<br />This post is about the writing of history - how lies about the history of the Jewish people are being spread in 'history' textbooks. You go off at a tangent about Yuli Tamir and the Green Line, an attempt by an ex- minister to impose her views about the disputed territory of Judea and Samaria (aka the West Bank) on Israeli schoolchildren - absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this post. <br />I've been very patient with you so far, Anon, because I do believe in freedom of speech, but any more such Off Topic rants and personal abuse from you will in future be deleted.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-45126991142400899302010-10-30T11:32:32.440+01:002010-10-30T11:32:32.440+01:00Once again, all this is beginning to sound (if &qu...Once again, all this is beginning to sound (if "sound" is indeed the right word here!) like the "dialogue of the deaf".<br /> <br />I thought I have already made my point over this subject, if not ad nauseum. To repeat, my contention on this topic, as in general, has been and will always be to stick to the original defintions of the terms and not to fall into the confusions (not to say malicious traps) of erroneous common (especially media-perpetuated) usages, which will inevitably lead to going around in circles, and talking across-purposes, as seems to have become the mark of this dialogue between the two of us><br /><br /><i><b>There is a Jewish people, no matter how hard you try to deny it,</b></i><br /><br />are you sick, or blind? this is has nothing to do what I said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-288310471054962882010-10-30T10:43:07.932+01:002010-10-30T10:43:07.932+01:00I don't know what your point has to do with di...I don't know what your point has to do with distorted historiography. There is a Jewish people, no matter how hard you try to deny it, and it has its own history and its own state called Israel - the fact that sovereignty in the West Bank is still disputed between Israelis and Arabs has nothing to do with that issue.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-50207175646734738572010-10-30T10:13:45.580+01:002010-10-30T10:13:45.580+01:00Obviously the "red herring" comment is m...Obviously the "red herring" comment is more applicable to you than me.<br /><br />Go read my comment, my point I raised was clear and obvious, I did not mentioned or talk about state / courtiers borders disputes here with their neighbours, I am talking in general term that any country have had its borders all the pupils of that nation got to know from early age when they were kids in the schools…….Israel the only state that established by UN resolution which never happen to any state or nation in our glob have no borders at all, Israeli kids in schools did not taught what their state boarders?<br /><br />So which Comment is a “red herring" here? Read <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/news/pm-olmert-backs-tamir-proposal-to-add-green-line-to-textbooks-1.206288" rel="nofollow">Education Minister Yuli Tamir</a> issuing a directive that the Green Line should be reintroduced in Israeli schoolbooks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-91305854181516672862010-10-29T20:46:25.009+01:002010-10-29T20:46:25.009+01:00There are 20 border disputes in the Middle East an...There are 20 border disputes in the Middle East and N Africa alone not including Israel. Iraq has a dispute over the Shatt al Arab with Iran to give one example so your comment is a red herring.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-66299512390206779242010-10-29T20:31:20.574+01:002010-10-29T20:31:20.574+01:00One thing that all school in Israeli have not yet ...One thing that all school in Israeli have not yet teaching the kids in matter of geography is "Israeli borders" Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com