tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post6486738590435742458..comments2024-03-14T02:22:26.957+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: Biton report re-ignites culture warsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-59785017362494607072016-07-11T08:38:00.802+01:002016-07-11T08:38:00.802+01:00Bataween, true but then these reasons need to be h...Bataween, true but then these reasons need to be highlighted for them to be understood. Very much of the resentment is because we are considered 'the other' (like the alternative music scene compared to the pop music scene) and treated as the exception, not as part of the mainstream Jewish cultureSelinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215629620223943455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-38808559035953352602016-07-10T22:29:48.453+01:002016-07-10T22:29:48.453+01:00You make a good point - these attitudes go back to...You make a good point - these attitudes go back to the Enlightenment and they have internalised its antisemitism. You are quite right that Orsher would not care a jot for traditional Ashkenazi religious culture. But there is another aspect to this issue that is barely mentioned - that Mizrahim also resent Ashkenazim, for a variety of reasons. It is not by any means one-way traffic.<br />bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-2988409811074918242016-07-10T21:53:43.170+01:002016-07-10T21:53:43.170+01:00Actually, these attitudes go back to the 18th cent...Actually, these attitudes go back to the 18th century in European culture, particularly in Germany, according to the article at the link. These attitudes that you rightly deplore go back long before the 1950s or 1930s.<br />http://www.acpr.org.il/English-Nativ/10-issue/green-10.htm<br /><br />By the way, do you think Orsher and his friends care at all for the traditional culture of the Ashkenazim which was of course very religious, focussed on studying Bible and Talmud and Rashi, etc, and in that way was not so different from the culture of Jews in the East? Do you think they want or would tolerate more than barely any revival of Yiddish language and the associated music, not really all that "Western," and so on?Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.com