tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post5140068585947381186..comments2024-03-14T02:22:26.957+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: Now the Copts are stampeding for the exitsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-57050240120531170532013-08-16T07:44:20.016+01:002013-08-16T07:44:20.016+01:00you mention that you're not going to engage in...you mention that you're not going to engage in a discussion with me, yet you're engaging in a discussion with me. <br /><br />abraham may have originated in iraq and the israelites may have exited from egypt and have gone to a land already inhabited by another people, but that's what many of the ancient tribes did in the middle east. and since the canaanites have long been an extinct people, the jews are therefore indigenous to israel. the oldest EXTANT people in any given country or area is considered indigenous.<br /><br />btw, if moses were alive today and he heard you call him a copt, he'd turn over in his grave.david - l.a.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-40782788339169834392013-08-16T07:03:19.758+01:002013-08-16T07:03:19.758+01:00I'm not going to engage in a discussion with y...I'm not going to engage in a discussion with you - for me , 3,000 years old is indigenous enough vis-a-vis Arab Muslim claims.<br />To be pedantic the children of Israel came to a land already inhabited by Jebusites Philistines and Canaanites. Technically they originated in Iraq with Abraham. You seem to have forgotten that the Israelites had an exodus from Egypt under the leadership of Moses the Copt.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-82185519622699625282013-08-16T03:53:06.653+01:002013-08-16T03:53:06.653+01:00first of all, never rely on getting all your knowl...first of all, never rely on getting all your knowledge from wikipedia. you need other sources.<br /><br />the first jews to settle in egypt, came to a country already inhabited by a people that were the ancestors of today's copts. therefore, the 'native americans' of egypt are the copts and only the copts. the same is true in iraq as regards the assyrians and kurds, and north africa as regards the berbers. in israel, jews, and only jews (musta'arabi jews and samaritans in particular) are the 'native americans'. jews may be the 'native americans' in the other middle eastern countries when compared to the arab colonizers, but when compared to the non-arab peoples under occupation, jews are historically just as much newcomers.david - l.a.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-13479236272788526002013-08-15T16:38:24.917+01:002013-08-15T16:38:24.917+01:00Yes!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Je...Yes!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt<br />Although some were new arrivals from elsewhere in the Ottoman empire, the oldest community was composed of Arabic-speaking Karaites and Rabbanites.<br />Most of the Iraqi-Jews trace their ancestry to Babylonian times, and Jews in North Africa to the Berbers and Romans. By any definition the Jews are the 'native Americans' of the Middle East. bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-54051987977324790482013-08-15T16:21:52.317+01:002013-08-15T16:21:52.317+01:00The jews are the 'native americans' of isr...The jews are the 'native americans' of israel/palestine (whatever term you want to use). So as regards to israel (and judea and samaria in particular) - yes.<br /><br />You actually believe that jews are also the 'native americans' of egypt???david - l.a.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-11123540048475967012013-08-15T07:25:19.521+01:002013-08-15T07:25:19.521+01:00The Jews are the 'native Americans' too. W...The Jews are the 'native Americans' too. Would you suggest a similar solution for them?bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-57472759026730344082013-08-15T04:58:35.633+01:002013-08-15T04:58:35.633+01:00The copts are egypt's version of the native am...The copts are egypt's version of the native american. It hurts to see them leaving their ancestral arab-occupied homeland. A solution to their problems that is better than emigration is to destroy the arab occupation and regain their country back.david - l.a.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-3974632143798603232013-08-13T00:34:51.476+01:002013-08-13T00:34:51.476+01:00"Most worrisome is the dramatic upswing in an..."Most worrisome is the dramatic upswing in anti-Christian violence by average Muslims who have often known their victims as neighbors their entire lives. Churches have been burned; Christians have been expelled from villages; and Copts have been imprisoned on charges of blaspheming Islam."<br /><br />Most worrisome is the long term effect of all this on children.<br /><br />It is necessary to address more often the psychological and not only the physical or material distress.<br /><br />These children will carry the trauma all of their lives for, even though they might be able to put it aside and appear to get on with their lives, it never goes away and will resurface with diabolical acuity. <br /><br />They might develop feelings of unworthiness,inferiority and insecurity, seeing their parents and role models humiliated and hopeless. <br /><br />There is plenty more that could be said, but really the psychological angle should be sometimes addressed. <br /><br />Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-14247316788249844962013-08-12T16:09:58.269+01:002013-08-12T16:09:58.269+01:00First and above all i am very sorry for what's...First and above all i am very sorry for what's happening to the Copts.<br />When at University I had several Coptic friends.<br />They were not wary enough and believed they would go on living in Egypt till the end of time. They had not understood that Egyptians wanted everyone out except Muslims.They thought it could only happen to others!!!<br />sultanaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-56318101048428836522013-08-12T15:49:03.655+01:002013-08-12T15:49:03.655+01:00But Trudy, the Muslims weren't eating the pigs...But Trudy, the Muslims weren't eating the pigs. <br />Anyhow, I feel that this book review is missing something. It seems somehow incomplete because it doesn't mention the zabalin, the Xian trash collectors of Cairo.<br /><br />France24 ran a feature on the zabalin not long ago.Eliyahu m'Tsiyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07973268399414290195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-52158137074621284962013-08-12T13:03:31.526+01:002013-08-12T13:03:31.526+01:00Copts were one of the few groups allowed to raise ...Copts were one of the few groups allowed to raise hogs in Egypt. So when they leave, the Egyptians will be left with one less major source of protein. As they sicken and die we will stand on the side of the Nile and wave their failed state goodbye.Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-33358195576710959652013-08-12T10:24:58.270+01:002013-08-12T10:24:58.270+01:00Thanks for remembering the Copts. No one else does...Thanks for remembering the Copts. No one else does.<br />God bless the Jews and the Christians.Christian slideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02445084290012338771noreply@blogger.com