tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post1882244044731639940..comments2024-03-29T11:39:42.348+00:00Comments on Point of No Return: Jewish Refugees from Arab and Muslim Countries: MK Svetlova 'will work to preserve Jewish heritage'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-75915005921221628762015-07-02T20:56:04.817+01:002015-07-02T20:56:04.817+01:00Why is she there in the first place? Because she k...Why is she there in the first place? Because she knows Arabic and for no other reason nor qualification.<br /><br />As far as the holy sites in Iraqi-controlled areas the task is better done from America than from an Israeli Knesset pulpit. <br />As far as the areas controlled by Isis in my opinion they will not destroy the shrines of the prophets at best they will appropriate them just like the Makhpela or the Western Wall.<br /><br />In Egypt scholars have been communicating for years. In Morocco and Tunisia, the holy and religious sites are taken care of by the community and the government. <br /><br />In Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, there is nothing she can do.<br />So what is that "lobby" really about?<br /><br />It's bluffing and part of a ping pong game between political parties of which, we, the MENA voters are the ball. Or so they see us.<br /><br />I said it before, I'll say it again. You should take those documents out of government hands and look for independent funding.<br /><br />In any case, my position is that what is more urgent than stones is the intellectual corpus whether religious texts, poems, stories, books and newspapers just sitting there and that in just a few years, no one will be able to read or translate, because the emigre generation is dwindling and so the languages are becoming extinct. That's what worries me.Sylvianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-72159552355246378242015-07-02T20:19:11.011+01:002015-07-02T20:19:11.011+01:00A smart woman indeed. It's an easy cause.
No ...A smart woman indeed. It's an easy cause. <br />No one expects any results, since there isn't anything she can actually do about it, but she will receive laudatory comments and endorsements from everyone just for pretending to fight to preserve a long gone past that everyone sees full of nostalgia these days. And all that while helping to erode the Jewish foundations of the state. Fighting for the Jewish past is always easier -- and more rewarding -- than fighting for its future...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-23296837110651281962015-07-02T20:03:39.794+01:002015-07-02T20:03:39.794+01:00A member of the "Zionist Union" that sup...A member of the "Zionist Union" that supports JStreet and advocates for "progressive denominations of Judaism". With people like her and Einat Wilf fighting for Israel the future does seem bleak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-54113450362444844312015-07-02T17:26:59.202+01:002015-07-02T17:26:59.202+01:00I take your point re Judeo-Arabic and its variants...I take your point re Judeo-Arabic and its variants but I think Svetlova will be active in trying to do what she can to preserve Jewish physical heritage. I think she has already written about the need to preserve Jewish holy sites in Iraq, for instance.bataweenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15829104245735619972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12677825.post-36660464014398432002015-07-02T17:17:29.316+01:002015-07-02T17:17:29.316+01:00It seems that as years pass, the country's &qu...It seems that as years pass, the country's "elites" sink only deeper in ignorance and dilettantism.<br /><br />Arabic as taught today (Arabic characters, standard Arabic language), is useless when it comes to the literary production of the Jews of Arab lands (at least until the 20th century and only in the East). So like her predecessors, she will conclude that they speak "bad arabic" and have produced nothing for at least six centuries. We know from experience that it will never occur to them that "Arab Jews" wrote in languages other than standard Arabic.<br /><br />She'll need to know a number of Judeo-"arabic" dialects as they differ by country, plus Spanish, French, Hebrew, Aramaic, Italian, haquetia, and Berber. There are also the regionalisms, the differences in dialect within the same country among Jews themseelves.<br /><br />She would also need to know the dialects spoken by Muslims, since Jews employed the dialects of the Muslims when the audience was not Jewish.<br /><br />Sorry, MK, Knowing Arabic is very good - but not sufficient to "protect the heritage of the Jews of Arab lands". One also needs to know how to identify it.<br /><br />Sylvianoreply@blogger.com